Thursday, July 14, 2011

Yeah, I still use Craigslist, wanna fight about it? (98 -101)

RJ hasn't posted in a while. I'm searching police logs in the area, but haven't come up with anything. Either he:

  1. Gave up. Which is fine by me.
  2. Found gainful employment, and gave up spamming PACinlaw ideology. Fine by me.
  3. Gone sleeper. Probably posting more innocuous things. I'm OK with it, I guess.
  4. Got picked up for some crime. This is of course making the big assumption that RJ is dumb enough to drive around on fake license plates. 

There's no way to be sure. I'll keep y'all posted; but in the meantime, I have some more Craigslist posts to put up.

Is This Still Your GOVERNMENT? (Eaton Chips and Dip Lately?)

Date: 2011-06-10, 8:54PM EDT
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Is this still your government? Why are you petitioning/praying to this government by remaining a voter, for example? http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/Voter_Cancellation.php

Is there an-other/an-archy government?

Are You Treasonist? Treason by Design.

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Classic RJ grammar and spelling errors. It wouldn't be him without it.

Below: Somebody makes a funny joke (it's in the title).


Will this have any effect on my Sovereign Bank Credit Cards? (re: SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MYTH....)

Date: 2011-06-10, 10:29PM EDT
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boston craigslist > boston/camb/brook > community > politics


SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MYTH DANGEROUS TO AMERICA (Treason by Design)
Date: 2011-06-10, 8:33PM EDT
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SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MYTH DANGEROUS TO AMERICA


PDF Version: http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/ppr/Sovereign_Citizen_Myth.php


The People's Awareness Coalition (PAC), founded in 1998, is issuing a
warning to all American patriots who are trying to overcome the system and
get out from under liberty limiting regulations and so-called government
oppression. Most, if not all, people involved in the so-called sovereign
citizen movement may eventually be identified, targeted and suffer
consequences as an effect of their desire for remedies that are not
grounded in law.


Groups of "Tax Deniers," "Sovereign Citizens," "Straw Man" advocates,
"Redemption" followers, and others pursuing many other unlawful and
half-baked "freedom" remedies, all have one thing in common. These schemes
are based on half truths, twisted law and fairy tales. Individuals and
their continued pursuit in these areas will serve to further embolden a
Federal Government intent upon suppressing the liberty movement altogether.
Continued expansion of Federal power is dangerous for America and dangerous
for all Americans.


According to PAC founder and author of The Red Amendment, LB Bork, "The
individual man and woman are not sovereigns. The principle in America has
always been that the state is sovereign via the people. Most of these
people in the "freedom movement" are either ignorant and uninformed and are
being taken by scam artists, or, their law research is flawed and
incomplete."


"As more Americans suffer loss of jobs, homes, and possessions and an
erosion of individual freedoms, desperation will cause accelerated
irrational behavior. Desperate Americans must be leery of scam artists and
con men trying to sell sovereignty schemes promoting in effect legal
gibberish and almost certain problems down the road," continued Mr. Bork.
"There is a right way to address this and there is a wrong way. PAC was
formed to provide constitutional instruction and political insights and
promotes the lawful remedy for State sovereignty."


"For the record, the People's Awareness Coalition does not advocate the
so-called "sovereign citizen" position or the multitude of its schemes,"
added Mr. Bork. "We at the Coalition advocate and provide a path for
individual's peaceful, non-aggressive, non-participation in the current
political systems."


See Mr. Bork's latest treatise "The Origin of Sovereign Citizens," (link
below) and go to PAC's Press Page for contact details, PAC Perspectives,
Mission, and FAQs.


Links to visit:


. People's Awareness Coalition: http://www.pacinlaw.org


. The Origin of Sovereign Citizens: http://www.pacinlaw.org/demons




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http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/Treason_by_Design.pdf


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It's a well needed chuckle for this weary soul.

The Living Network is a PACinlaw partner. They have a really convoluted definition of Republic and Democracy. Democracy is always bad because it is a step toward Marxism, which republics are somehow immune to.


Democracy was bad? #152

Date: 2011-06-11, 8:49PM EDT
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"DEMOCRACY: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard for consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy."
This was an official government definition of democracy in America in 1928 by 1952 it had magically changed to:


"Meaning of democracy: Because the United States is a democracy, the majority of the people decide how our government will be organized and run - and that includes the Army, Navy and Air Force. The people do this by electing representatives, and these men and women carry out the wishes of the people."
Are your wishes being carried out?
When did Democracy go from a bad thing to a good thing?
Where did the Republic go?


"If you establish a democracy, you must in due time reap the fruits of a democracy... with great increase of the public expenditure. You will in due season have wars entered into from passion and not from reason; and you will in due season submit to peace ignominiously sought and ignominiously obtained, which will diminish your authority and perhaps endanger your independence. You will in due season find your property is less valuable, and your freedom less complete."
In the next few months your representatives will increase the debt for you, your children and your grandchildren. What can you do about it other than complain? Do you want to know what has worked in the past?


"And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts." Psalms 119:45
Join the Living Network
Be a part of the solution






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RJ trots out Treason by Design again. So I did a title parody and gave him a run for his money.

Delusional by Design

Date: 2011-06-11, 7:05PM EDT
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I just want to let every one know that the Supreme Court has ever interpreted the 14th Amendment like the folks at Pacinlaw.org. By doing business with them, and going through the "nationality correction process", you are only taking a fictitious status. It's not real. There is no such status as State National, or anything like it. No part of government will recognize this status.


You could seriously save yourself some money by just defining yourself as a State National and making crap up. It's just as effective. Just don't be surprised if the IRS slaps you with a Frivolous penalty if you try to use your new found status in court because you decided that your status allows you to skip out on taxes.


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RJ caught it. Good thing he linked U.S. v. Cruikshank so we can all see how wrong he is about it.

RE; Delusional by Design (LMAO! I SEE DUMB PEOPLE)
Date: 2011-06-11, 8:41PM EDT
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I SEE "DUMB PEOPLE" . . . (AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT)


The citizen cannot complain, because he has voluntarily submitted himself to such a form of government. He owes allegiance to the two departments, so to speak, and within their respective spheres must pay the penalties which each exacts for disobedience to its laws." U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875) http://laws.findlaw.com/us/92/542.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1y8ESrmE0A


http://www.notmygovernment.us


TREASON By DESIGN
http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/Treason_by_Design.pdf






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I fire back.

So what's it like arguing with yourself? (it really is Delusional by design, k?)

Date: 2011-06-12, 6:27PM EDT
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Are you so lonely that you need to post twice for extra validation? Did mommy not coddle you enough when you were a child, so you lash out just for extra attention? Do you just love making noise in echo chambers? Well, I got a product for you! Introducing (*drum roll*) the hug box!

Now you can get all the attention that you need without the hassle of being scorned by other people. Try it out, today!

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And he responds.

re: re: what's it like to argue with yourself (Asks the blind reactor!

Date: 2011-06-12, 8:00PM EDT
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When intellegent people make a decision they argue and debate the pros and cons of their potentual decision. This process is called CRITICAL THINKING and if you had ever tried it you would not ask; what is it like to argue with yourself? Now take your foot out of your mouth and place it in your ass for you deserve a swift kick in the ass for reacting before thinking!

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Or perhaps one could put forth an argument worth having. Assuming that you're the author of practically every post for the past week, you could learn a thing or to about respecting public forums. You had an entire week to assemble one coherent post regarding the 14th Amendment, with a clear thesis, body, and conclusion; and you didn't do it. You just put somebody else's work up instead, with no context, re-post it 20 times, and called it the day while everyone else sick of you cleans up the mess, only to find a bigger mess tomorrow because of your insecurities of not being the heard. If I were the original author, I'd take legal action against you for copyright infringement and plagiarism for every one of your posts not correctly cited.

Until you rectify all of those things, and maybe learn how to spell ("potentual"), you and I can have a real discussion on the 14th Amendment and 'Reconstruction Politics'. Until then, I support the "Delusional by design" poster and his/her efforts to make you the subject of his/her ridicule.

This has been a Help me help you lesson.


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Heh. The only bad thing about being a grammar nazi is that it will eventually come back and bite you in the ass. Not like I care, I'm only in it for the lulz. Based by the timestamps, he was probably seething over it.

Though I regret not attacking him on his US v. Cruikshank citation, now that he's really engaged in this conversation.

Re3; blind reactor that can't jump a missed spelled word (OK P o t e n t i a l - now you get it?)

Date: 2011-06-12, 10:01PM EDT
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I stand buy my regular post and it holds me up as your perfection knocked me off the post long enough to correctly spell my puntential!

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4 re: re: what's it like to argue with yourself (Are you serious?)

Date: 2011-06-12, 10:55PM EDT
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"Until you rectify all of those things, and maybe learn how to spell"

" you could learn a thing or to " I'm sure you meant to write two (2), Correct? How petty shall we be?
This has been a Help me help you lesson.

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Meanwhile, Sovereign bank poster makes another funny post.

get them out of my bank account....! (re: SOVEREIGN MYTH DANGEROUS)

Date: 2011-06-12, 6:03PM EDT
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There's ever growing unrest among Sovereign account holders

that the next executive grab for the political tax cookies could

devalue their positions!..."Buy a parachute" was the only response

from the bank....

boston craigslist > boston/camb/brook > community > politics


SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MYTH DANGEROUS TO AMERICA
Date: 2011-06-12, 2:22PM EDT


SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MYTH DANGEROUS TO AMERICA


PDF Version: http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/ppr/Sovereign_Citizen_Myth.php


The People's Awareness Coalition (PAC), founded in 1998, is issuing a
warning to all American patriots who are trying to overcome the system and
get out from under liberty limiting regulations and so-called government
oppression. Most, if not all, people involved in the so-called sovereign
citizen movement may eventually be identified, targeted and suffer
consequences as an effect of their desire for remedies that are not
grounded in law.


Groups of "Tax Deniers," "Sovereign Citizens," "Straw Man" advocates,
"Redemption" followers, and others pursuing many other unlawful and
half-baked "freedom" remedies, all have one thing in common. These schemes
are based on half truths, twisted law and fairy tales. Individuals and
their continued pursuit in these areas will serve to further embolden a
Federal Government intent upon suppressing the liberty movement altogether.
Continued expansion of Federal power is dangerous for America and dangerous
for all Americans.


According to PAC founder and author of The Red Amendment, LB Bork, "The
individual man and woman are not sovereigns. The principle in America has
always been that the state is sovereign via the people. Most of these
people in the "freedom movement" are either ignorant and uninformed and are
being taken by scam artists, or, their law research is flawed and
incomplete."


"As more Americans suffer loss of jobs, homes, and possessions and an
erosion of individual freedoms, desperation will cause accelerated
irrational behavior. Desperate Americans must be leery of scam artists and
con men trying to sell sovereignty schemes promoting in effect legal
gibberish and almost certain problems down the road," continued Mr. Bork.
"There is a right way to address this and there is a wrong way. PAC was
formed to provide constitutional instruction and political insights and
promotes the lawful remedy for State sovereignty."


"For the record, the People's Awareness Coalition does not advocate the
so-called "sovereign citizen" position or the multitude of its schemes,"
added Mr. Bork. "We at the Coalition advocate and provide a path for
individual's peaceful, non-aggressive, non-participation in the current
political systems."


See Mr. Bork's latest treatise "The Origin of Sovereign Citizens," (link
below) and go to PAC's Press Page for contact details, PAC Perspectives,
Mission, and FAQs.


Links to visit:


. People's Awareness Coalition: http://www.pacinlaw.org


. The Origin of Sovereign Citizens: http://www.pacinlaw.org/demons




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TREASON By DESIGN
http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/Treason_by_Design.pdf

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I lost the time stamp to this next post. Sorry. He also posted somebody's IP addr. and coordinates, and I couldn't, in good conscience, leave them in the post. I don't know who that person is, and I obviously don't live anywhere near MI.

Our Very Own AGENT PROVOCATEUR right here on CraigsList is searching Names I HAVE INFORMATION On Our FLAGGER


His IP address is; Agri-valley Services [redacted] In or Around Elmira Michigan

[REDACTED Coordinates]


AGENT PROVOCATEUR is Googling and searching names and Affiliations with PAC and other orginazatons. See how they Work?

Communist Agent Provocateur's are slippery and dishonest, never to be trusted.

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AGENT PROVOCATEUR DEFINED

Agent provocateur [Fr, lit., provoking agent): one employed to associate himself with members of a group or with suspected persons, and, by pretended sympathy with their aims or attitudes to Incite them to some action that will make them liable to apprehension and punishment (Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 1981)

It has often been said, those who win the wars, write the history books. That being the case, one would expect to find the winning side defining its key leaders as the heroes of the saga and the losers becoming history's villains. But, what if one of the key leaders for the losing side was secretly an inside "plant" for the victors? Chances are pretty good he will look like a failure to future generations. In actuality, he may have done his assigned task very well indeed. He, more than anyone, would have guaranteed, what was to prove to be the losing side, would be just that... the, losing side. Think of it. He was strategically effective because he successfully implemented losing strategies for "his side", willfully mismanaging the movement he was "leading". Indeed, where history knows of such inside agents, they prove to be the determinate of victory. Of course, the problem lies in knowing who they are. They rarely are ever identified for one of three obvious reasons: (1) their work is perceived as disgraceful, even to their own people; (2) it becomes dangerous to reveal their identity after their work is accomplished; (3) it becomes advantageous to keep the agent in his position of betrayal permanently. However, they do exist. Additionally, every war uses them, including "culture wars".



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AGENT PROVOCATEUR searching Names

AGENT PROVOCATEUR is Googling and searching names and Affiliations to PAC and other orginazatons. See how they Work?

Communist Agent Provocateur's are slippery and dishonest, never to be trusted.

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AGENT PROVOCATEUR DEFINED

Agent provocateur [Fr, lit., provoking agent): one employed to associate himself with members of a group or with suspected persons, and, by pretended sympathy with their aims or attitudes to Incite them to some action that will make them liable to apprehension and punishment (Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 1981)

It has often been said, those who win the wars, write the history books. That being the case, one would expect to find the winning side defining its key leaders as the heroes of the saga and the losers becoming history's villains. But, what if one of the key leaders for the losing side was secretly an inside "plant" for the victors? Chances are pretty good he will look like a failure to future generations. In actuality, he may have done his assigned task very well indeed. He, more than anyone, would have guaranteed, what was to prove to be the losing side, would be just that... the, losing side. Think of it. He was strategically effective because he successfully implemented losing strategies for "his side", willfully mismanaging the movement he was "leading". Indeed, where history knows of such inside agents, they prove to be the determinate of victory. Of course, the problem lies in knowing who they are. They rarely are ever identified for one of three obvious reasons: (1) their work is perceived as disgraceful, even to their own people; (2) it becomes dangerous to reveal their identity after their work is accomplished; (3) it becomes advantageous to keep the agent in his position of betrayal permanently. However, they do exist. Additionally, every war uses them, including "culture wars".





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...but I sure don't mind trolling!

RE: Our Very Own AGENT PROVOCATEUR searching Names (HERE'S (OH NO!)

Date: 2011-06-13, 1:08AM EDT
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OH GOD HOW DID YOU FIND OUT WHERE I LIVE? WHAT WILL I DO?

(I'm actually from Gaylord, MI. It's a real place, look it up. It's amazing just how inaccurate those IP trackers really are).

Isn't it counterproductive to identify yourself? Who cares where I'm searching from, it's what I'm searching - you specifically. There's a reason why I'm after you.

While I'm not busy writing blogs articles in German, and commenting on family law cases, I love to pick apart your desperate situation. You're conducting social suicide by train, except the train is Child Support. I know you're an HVAC tech. I know that you make an income because you use craigslist to advertise for your services. The IRS may be slow on connecting the dots (they use an old mainframe), but you will go down for being shitty to your kids. Just think, when they turn 18, they'll be so jaded that they won't even talk to you. You'll be dead to them. It's bad enough that their mother is a shithead. As much as I want to tell you that you should get your act together, and be a decent father to your kids, part of me really doesn't care anymore. I want to see this suicide. Prove to me that you are decent, caring father, and I'll stop.

I am the real Troy Riley. And unlike that other poster that trolls as me for his next big hit, you can't catch me. I thrive on obnoxiousness. And righteously flagging your scam posts. Simultaneously.

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If you are curious, those IP trackers really aren't very accurate. I put my IP into one of these and it claims that I'm from two towns over. Whatever...

Also, there is a Gaylord MI, and it's right next to Elmira. Look it up.

Troy Riley Portector and Agent of Fraud

Date: 2011-06-14, 6:22AM EDT
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My Good Friend Troy Riley!
I am so pleased that you think you have come so close to knowing who I am!
Let me help you.

Like yourself I also have many aliases because of the likes of people such as yourself, who prefer to protect a system which enslaves the people of our republics and to keep stalkers as yourself from your threats and harassment. It is clear that you have some psychological problems that need attended to.

I would like to inform you that I have been happily married in the eyes of GOD (not government) for over 20 years and your private law system has no jurisdiction over my marriage, for we did not need permission of your illegitimate system to be married. I have two wonderful children with NO "contractual birth certificates" giving over our rights to our children to an illegitimate slave government and they therefore have NO jurisdiction over my children who had been home schooled, they have not been indoctrinated into your illegitimate system of law. Our two are very involved in our lives and are doing just great, thank you!

You attempt to use psychology to work people up and I have been onto your tactics since your first post. Your so easily given up as a protector of a fraudulent system of law and politics that People see right through you and what your trying to protect. You are your own worst enemy and you probably shouldn't speak or write because you show yourself through your threats at attempting to protect your system of communism (enslavement)
Nice try on my living though! Do you have any idea how many RJ's there are! LMAO on that one!

Take care Troy, have a nice week!


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You know, I sometimes wonder if I'm dealing with two people. But then I take a look at the title and wonder no more.

But besides that, I'm impressed with RJ's posting now that he's aware of his spelling problem. Not necessarily more rational, but more lucid.

Stay tuned for more,
-Neo
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