NMG Field Trip (part 6)

The Conspiracy Corner features just about everything that you'd expect. Illuminati, global warming, Bilderberg Group, chemtrails, Lizard People - you know, boring stuff. Unfortunately, this subforum doesn't  present anything more illuminating on the topic, so I'm not going to waste my time on those topics.

I do find this adoration for Jesse Ventura rather strange as they don't really share the same viewpoint beyond the same dumb conspiracies (9/11, FEMA camps, etc.), though I do have to admit that I find Ventura himself rather strange. As soon as he moved to Baha California, Mexico, to live off grid he became more Ron Paulish. Forums poster Jerry wants to break him on the 14th Amendment:

Ok Jesse you would rather face the dangers than loss your freedom. Just what are you trying to say here? You wouldn't be suggesting force here would you? Jesse needs a little 14th amendment lesson. 

Honestly, I don't think that Ventura will take any 14th Amendment lesson seriously. I mean, think of it this way - the 9/11 conspiracy theory has intrigue and suspense. The 14th Amendment conspiracy theory is long after the fact and suspiciously racist.

LB Bork responds:

This is the problem with people not networking, hence ISLAND MAKERS PROJECT www.islandmakers.us

The Red Amendment shoud be common place in the movement, but it is not.

The reason being people want the socialist benefits of this system, but are not willing to give them up.
People are not liking the final stage of the plan now... What can we say?

Karl Marx said that socialism leads to communism, which the blueprint for such is the Communist Manifesto. Just think if people would have taken The Red Amendment serious 10 years ago... A lot of this could have been avoided. 

Hahaha, I love your illusions de grandeur. Listen, if everyone took The Red Amendment seriously ten years ago, you'd just be getting out of jail about now. With that aside, I take it that he considers Jesse Ventura to be an Island Maker. (Welcome to the Island. Population: who gives a fuck?)

Movies that reveal the 14th Amendment. It's not Bork's list, but it's good to know what the rest of the forum thinks.

• The Matrix (the first one only).
• The Truman Show.
• District 9
• National Treasure 2 (via Youtube link)
• Instinct

Rich of Illinois: Maybe not so much a 14th amendment spotlight as an illumination of the human nature that enables it's victory is a movie called "Instinct" with Anthony Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr. The three pivitol moments in the film, for me were: 1st when Hopkins explains the nature of "the takers", 2nd when Hopkins attacks and restrains Gooding in the interview room and asks him what he has lost, and 3rdly when Hopkins explains that after the gorrillas have spent a lifetime in confinement or institutionalized that even when the cage door is left wide open and unguarded, the animal will not free itself. I feel the movie conveys on many levels, some even over my head, many truths on society, imprisonment, human nature, and how truly exceptional, courage really is. At the end "society" is revealed to Gooding as a prison, in which he has reveled his whole life out of ignorance and now fear of something different... Freedom

• Idiocracy
• Gladiator
• Tombstone (I guess.)
• Star Wars: "The Clone Wars"

Shadowcaster wrote on May 10th, 2010 at 1:09pm:I have read through the post and didn't see any mention of Star Wars. Yes, it is the most successful sci-fi film(s) to hit the market, but if you pay close attention to "the Clone Wars" it is almost frightening to see how it resembles the 14th Amendment. How "democracy" takes over what was once a "republic" and the war just begins. Then in "the Revenge of the Sith" the deception is unveiled, but it is too late. The Federation controls almost everything but the scale is larger than merely global. Those in opposition are labeled "rebels" and pursued. I think the following part can be appreciated by all here: 

Brother B: This is my favorite part of "the Revenge of the Sith": PALPATINE: In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secure society, which I assure you will last for ten thousand years.

(There is a loud, sustained cheer from the Senate. Bail Organa and Padme sit, dumbfounded.)

PALPATINE: An empire that will continue to be ruled by this august body, and a sovereign ruler chosen for life . . .

(The Senate cheers again. Bail and Padme are devastated. Padme begins to cry.)

PALPATINE: An empire ruled by the majority . . . Ruled by a new constitution . . .

(The Senate applauds.)

PADME: So this is how liberty dies, to the sound of thunderous applause . . . I know we are talking about movies. 

But, I would like to take this time to give an honorable mention to radio personality Alex Jones. He is the biggest proponent of 14th Amendment slavery I know of.

• Daybreakers
• Malcolm X

Mylene: I watched the Malcolm X movie by Spike Lee with Denziel Washington, towards the end, Malcolm X acknowledges something is wrong with the 13th, 14th, 15th Amendments. And another thing I have noticed about Spike Lee's movies, is that the name of his procuction company is 40 Acres and a Mule Productions.. I think Spike Lee is awake and well aware of the injustices imposed onto all of us with this fraudalent government, that is now in place... Great movies suggested here, will have to check them out..

• CSA: Confederate States of America. (A special mention by Bork, surprisingly enough).

If you have seen these movies, you could probably guess how they could vaguely relate to the ills caused by the 14th Amendment. I added the respective poster's explanation on Instinct, Star Wars, and Malcolm X to further illuminate their choice.

Regarding Malcolm X and Spike Lee: Both men are complicated individuals, and while Malcolm X was a black separatist that believed the government was rigged against black people, he did claim to be a communist, ergo his problem with 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments aren't because of the supposed slavery imposed by the fraudulent United States, but from not going far enough to protect his rights. Remember, those Amendments (14th and 15th) did not stop Jim Crow laws and Segregation like they were supposed to, and when the courts got around to making positive civil rights decisions, it was too little too late - Malcolm X died in 1965. It took many Civil Rights Acts to even get a resemblance of equality with white people, with many more to come in the future.

Also, I don't think Spike Lee would ever see eye to eye with a "State National" regarding the slavery imposed by the 14th Amendment. In fact, judging by his character, he'd openly mock that idea, and probably make a movie about it too. I don't think Mylene truly understands what it means to be black in that era, let alone today. For her, and everyone else, to compare her slavery with being black is a crude joke at best.

The effects of BP's oil spill on State Nationals. Intrepid forums reporter Jerry believes that the spill is a ruse to test southerners. This thread is definitely one of the most fascinating threads, not because of accuracy, but by the sources they post.

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Ultimately, this forum is pretty stupid and redundant, and even Bork can't keep consistent with his stupid classification scheme. Seriously, what in the hell does the Sovereign Cop have to do with conspiracy theories? (By the way, do read the story, it's mind boggling).

Well, now that we have completed Republic v. Democracy section, We'll be moving on to The Living Network next time, as the Members General Discussion is locked and I don't want to register. I have a pretty good feeling that I can finish this up completely.