LB Bork to Operative (41st, 42nd CL post)

2200676019   Feb 06 11 03:11:45 PM   bos   politics   LB Bork to Operative, SOS!

This message is encrypted. Put your tinfoil hat on, face Kieler, WI., and pray to Ayn Rand to decode the message.

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Son, return home immediately! The IRS have found a hole in my 14th Amendment distortion shield. My Socialism distortion shield appears ineffective. I fear that I might not have enough bogus liens to fend them off, let alone bogus lien guns to shoot them with. I also fear that they are totally resistant to the latest legal theories. We must leave before they surround us completely. We don't need to find more marks. The alien race that follows the Hale Bopp Comet are very accommodating but don't have the power or the fake paperwork to help extract us.

Bring all of your followers. Make sure that none of them are black, we may have to mate to ensure survival.

Hurry. They are jamming ou3r sig92al3haewasdgsa

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Somebody else plays along:

Operative to LB Bork!
Date: 2011-02-06, 6:32PM EST
Reply to: comm-r9mwc-2200699646@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

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I have no fear of the Illegitimate IRS. Or their Government Attorneys and Enforcers. I moved the supporting documentation to a new website, and covered my tracks well. Plan B [mating] can be achieved if we can get the flag-waving porn stars on board. They are white and patriotic. Send more blank money orders to implement this strategy.

Operative Out! /\/\/\/\/\/\\///\/\/\/\/\/[crackle]~-~-~-||

I retardedly missed the reference the first time. I'm so sorry Troll Hearted.

I respond: (repost of a flagged ad)

2201773042   Feb 07 11 10:09:17 AM   bos   politics   LB Bork to Operative

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Be sure to leave the port:80 open for updates on the tinfoil hat transponder. The IRS are trying to hijack my messages. It is a cat and mouse game here.

I tried to launch, but one engine has failed. It appears to be electrical in nature.

I have barricaded myself in the Mother Ship, and all of my bogus lien guns are jammed (it happens when the liens have thick language). I hope they can't figure out how to break down the door. They have begun to wire the ship down from its legs. I've tried calling Larry Becraft, hoping that he would be my knight in shining armor, but he requires $80,000 upfront. I do not want to lose my hard earned money. Get here ASAP. I'm sending $5,000 via Western Union. Make sure your porn stars are trained in shooting Police Glock 19s with 30 round extended magazines.

I discovered that there is a weapon more dangerous than bogus liens and returns. It was unveiled during the Superbowl halftime show. It's called autotune. The Black Eye Peas, whether they realize it or not, were so obnoxious that in my confusion, my ears bled. Good thing they're inept. Can you imagine how bad it could have been if they were serious? Try to find more information on autotune software. I have an idea.

An agent is sitting outside of my port window, trying to tap into my satteli2tjwen23g j23 ujb2346edg a---

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I wish more people would play along. It would make these posts a lot more fun to write (thanks Troll Hearted for playing along).

Back to LH Perez (37th - 40th CL post)

2199556117   Feb 05 11 06:26:09 PM   bos   politics   re: re: There is a 14th Amendment, dammit.

It's almost as if you have never heard of the Reconstruction Act at all. ( I didn't quote the last post, it was flagged before I could copy and paste)

Also, Judge LH Perez never cared about laws or procedures. In fact, you are a scumbag for even supporting him.

Judge Leander H. Perez, from Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, was a neo-Confederate. He made absolutely sure that black people would be put in their place by whatever means he had. He ruled like a dictator, wrote his own laws, stole his own elections (via ballot stuffing and voter intimidation), and was an unwashable shitstain from the 1950's Civil Rights Era. He aligned himself with other terrible segregationists like Strom Thrumond, George Wallace, Ross Barnet, et. al., he helped guide the roll back of integration of Louisiana public schools, and other equal rights measures. 131 laws were enacted to deny social justice for black people (and people of color). Can you believe that prick? But wait, there's more... When integration came rolling in again in the 60's, he fought back with Citizens Council of Greater New Orleans - racially concerned parents, and used mob violence against the school board building, and black people in the street or buses (rock throwing). It got so bad that the Catholic Church EXCOMMUNICATED him because his mob burned down a Catholic run school. Guess what Perez said about it... "The Church is being used as a front for clever jews" (p.212).

(read the book Lies Across America by James W. Loewen, p. 210-212. The book is online here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=vBZiU_tmRmgC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=judge+lh+perez&source=bl&ots=JZa7lFW0t0&sig=EbfvGsVhanFc9Njh-7r2aHDbyT4&hl=en&ei=lbtDTZ2eHsf1gAern_3YAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=judge%20lh%20perez&f=false )

To LH Perez, black people were nothing more than animals on welfare that are out to rape white women. He refused to see eye to eye with anyone who believed in civil rights, even went against his own Catholic faith! But most of all, he saw the 14th Amendment as unconstitutional because IT TOOK AWAY HIS POWER TO ABUSE BLACK PEOPLE/PEOPLE OF COLOR, NOT BECAUSE OF ANY ANTI-FED TAX DEFIANCE SCHEME.

We've been advised by several legal researchers (NOT lawyers) that if the autonomous states declared it's invalidity (the 14th Amendment) the entire out-of-thin-air economic stranglehold on this nation, along with the current system of Talmudic law would collapse.

Your bigotry is really showing with that Talmudic law reference, if it hasn't already. You truly are a scumbag. Go eat a bowl of dicks.


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The 14th Amendment Is Unconstitutional http://www.sweetliberty.org/fourteenth.amend.htm
- Judge L.H. Perez


It is difficult to emphasize strongly enough, the importance of this memorandum written by Judge Perez. History is always written by the 'victor'. In this case — again — the victor was the small group of powerful U.S. and International financiers who have orchestrated every war in which Americans have fought and died, and who have installed their minions in all levels of both federal and state government today... executive, legislative, judicial, bureaucratic. Because this group also controls the media and the educational system in America, they have successfully promulgated their version of the War of Northern Aggression which they labeled the 'Civil War'.

Just within this past year (2000), as we broached the subject of the controlled opposition to the southern flag on the Sweet Liberty broadcast, several informed guests revealed the lies surrounding and concealing the real facts about that bloody war in which hundreds of thousands of Americans were slaughtered (brother killing brother — Christians killing Christians); whole southern states and millions of lives were destroyed; and out of the chaos... the blood, mud, fire and ashes ("utter destruction") came the 14th Amendment which effectively dismantled the Constitution. Except... it is not valid.

We learned that the 14th Amendment was: 1) fraudulently, unlawfully, illegally proposed by the U.S. Congress rendering it null and void at the outset; 2) ratified in the Southern states by 'rump legislatures', literally by military force at bayonet point — threat, duress and coercion — rendering it null and void in the second instance; 3) had nothing to do with giving freed slaves citizenship status and instead created a new status of citizenship for all Americans (U.S. citizens rather than Citizens of our respective states) which in effect enslaved us all; 4) dissolved and replaced constitutional law with the 'Laws of Commerce and Admiralty'... and 5) in a very real sense became a new constitution within the constitution.

We've been advised by several legal researchers (NOT lawyers) that if the autonomous states declared it's invalidity (the 14th Amendment) the entire out-of-thin-air economic stranglehold on this nation, along with the current system of Talmudic law would collapse. No need for an amendment to repeal the 14th because it is not a lawful part of the Constitution. In fact, if the missing lawfully ratified 13th Amendment was re-inserted, the one could replace the other. To fully protect the rights of descendants of slaves, each state could declare equal rights of all legal Citizens

2199627603   Feb 05 11 07:42:09 PM   bos   politics   14th amendment does exist

get over it already!!!

2199689712   Feb 05 11 09:01:42 PM   bos   politics   14th amendment exists, hallelujah!

I'm letting you know that I take great joy in trolling you. The internet is a bitch, bro.

The 14th Amendment exists, nobody is going to repeal it, and there's nothing to gain by repealing it and living without it.

The reconstruction acts are not unlawful at all. The southern states were not considered states, because the Radical Republican Congress said so - further enforced by the subsequent election via override of President Johnson. While President Johnson didn't agree with the Reconstruction Act, he executed it faithfully. So none of your bullshit matters.

Sorry, you lose.

That post should be the end of any 14th Amendment conspiracy theory discussion.  But nooooo. Can't have that, can we?

2199700433   Feb 05 11 09:17:34 PM   bos   politics   LB BORK, no law education, just a whole lot of internet. 

"TRUST ME, I'm L.B. Bork."
"I'm Here To Help You Get Arrested For Tax Evasion."
"I Have Googled All Knowledge Needed To Practice Common Law."
"If The Deceivers And Maintainers Can Scam You, So Can I."


I wonder if LB Bork sells a directory of services just like Matthew Lesko does, except it's a directory of IRS personnel to harass and other allied sovereign citizen scams.

Hey Y'all, let's have some fun! (34th, 35th, 36th)

In response to a picture of a Sovereign Citizens type license plate. I think it was this one:

2195471690    Feb 03 11 11:25:54 AM   bos   politics   Re: I need help finding one of these

Also, is it possible to get that license plate to match the color of my truck nutz?

Some poster calls me out stating something along the lines of "are you gay?" in a weird Somerville Lesbian sort of way. Staying in theme...


2195826261   Feb 03 11 02:25:23 PM   bos   politics   re: RE: Re: I need help finding one of these

lol

Am I not allowed to color coordinate? I got an anodized blue rims that flow with my pretty color scheme (fuchsia), and the license plate given is just too drab. I want my ride to scream "Arrest Me".

Do keep in mind that we lesbians drive anything small and practical. Subarus specifically, but Toyotas are pretty good IMHO. Something about the heteronormative nature of Big Three trucks, they're just a turn off.

Do you get an entitlement that pays for your snow to be shoveled?
hahaha. No, not at all. I just got back from lawyering and I'm going to go full Rosie the Riveter on my driveway right now.

There was a good post after this, that calls me out on using the word heteronormative. I didn't respond to it, but it was along the lines of "Are you one of those deconstructionist lesbians that I hear are destroying America"? I didn't post a followup because I had no idea what deconstructionist even meant, until I wiki'd it. Apparently it's the current model of feminist thought. But still, I couldn't think of a way to parlay it intelligently fast enough until the next spam post hit the board.

Let's get serious. In response to "There's no 14th Amendment"

2199456663   Feb 05 11 04:59:13 PM    bos   politics   There is a 14th Amendment, dammit.

The biggest tip off that this article is shit can be found at the top: September 27, 1957. I wonder how the author really feels about the Civil Rights Movement.

The second biggest tip off is the lack of formatting. I guess the spammer doesn't care about David Lawrence's work any more than he cares about playing king of the hill on Craigslist.

Actually, only 21 States legally ratified it. So it failed of ratification.
Actually, 28 states did ratify it, that's how it became an amendment in the first place. It was a condition of the Reconstruction Acts. President Johnson thought it was unconstitutional, and vetoed it, but congress overrode it. Congress had the votes to make it happen, and wanted it done this way to ensure the destruction of slavery and establish equal rights while ensuring the stability of the union. It's constitutional. Case closed. Stop crying.

This is the tragic history of the so-called "Fourteenth Amendment" — a record that is a disgrace to free government and a "government of law."
hhahaha, oh wow! This is the stupidest goddamn thing I have ever read. It reeks of butthurt, like the author had something to gain from a government free of the 14th Amendment. The right to treat black people as second class, perhaps.

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There is No "Fourteenth Amendment"!
by
David Lawrence
U.S. News & World Report
September 27, 1957

A MISTAKEN BELIEF — that there is a valid article in the Constitution known as the "Fourteenth Amendment" — is responsible for the Supreme Court decision of 1954 and the ensuing controversy over desegregation in the public schools of America. No such amendment was ever legally ratified by three fourths of the States of the Union as required by the Constitution itself. The so-called "Fourteenth Amendment" was dubiously proclaimed by the Secretary of State on July 20, 1868. The President shared that doubt. There were 37 States in the Union at the time, so ratification by at least 28 was necessary to make the amendment an integral part of the Constitution. Actually, only 21 States legally ratified it. So it failed of ratification.

The undisputed record, attested by official journals and the unanimous writings of historians, establishes these events as occurring in 1867 and 1868:

Outside the South, six States — New Jersey, Ohio, Kentucky, California, Delaware and Maryland — failed to ratify the proposed amendment.
In the South, ten States — Texas, Arkansas, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana — by formal action of their legislatures, rejected it under the normal processes of civil law.
A total of 16 legislatures out of 37 failed legally to ratify the "Fourteenth Amendment."
Congress — which had deprived the Southern States of their seats in the Senate — did not lawfully pass the resolution of submission in the first instance.
The Southern States which had rejected the amendment were coerced by a federal statute passed in 1867 that took away the right to vote or hold office from all citizens who had served in the Confederate Army. Military governors were appointed and instructed to prepare the roll of voters. All this happened in spite of the presidential proclamation of amnesty previously issued by the President. New legislatures were thereupon chosen and forced to "ratify" under penalty of continued exile from the Union. In Louisiana, a General sent down from the North presided over the State legislature.
Abraham Lincoln had declared many times that the Union was "inseparable" and "indivisible." After his death, and when the war was over, the ratification by the Southern States of the Thirteenth Amendment, abolishing slavery, had been accepted as legal. But Congress in the 1867 law imposed the specific conditions under which the Southern States would be "entitled to representation in Congress."
Congress, in passing the 1867 law that declared the Southern States could not have their seats in either the Senate or House in the next session unless they ratified the "Fourteenth Amendment," took an unprecedented step. No such right — to compel a State by an act of Congress to ratify a constitutional amendment — is to be found anywhere in the Constitution. Nor has this procedure ever been sanctioned by the Supreme Court of the United States.
President Andrew Johnson publicly denounced this law as unconstitutional. But it was passed over his veto.
Secretary of State Seward was on the spot in July 1868 when the various "ratifications" of a spurious nature were placed before him. The legislatures of Ohio and New Jersey had notified him that they rescinded their earlier action of ratification. He said in his official proclamation that he was not authorized as Secretary of State "to determine and decide doubtful questions as to the authenticity of the organization of State legislatures or as to the power of any State legislature to recall a previous act or resolution of ratification." He added that the amendment was valid "if the resolutions of the legislatures of Ohio and New Jersey, ratifying the aforesaid amendment, are to be deemed as remaining of full force and effect, notwithstanding the subsequent resolutions of the legislatures of these States." This was a very big "if." It will be noted that the real issue, therefore, is not only whether the forced "ratification" by the ten Southern States was lawful, but whether the withdrawal by the legislatures of Ohio and New Jersey — two Northern States — was legal. The right of a State, by action of its legislature, to change its mind at any time before the final proclamation of ratification is issued by the Secretary of State has been confirmed in connection with other constitutional amendments.
The Oregon Legislature in October 1868 — three months after the Secretary's proclamation was issued — passed a rescinding resolution, which argued that the "Fourteenth Amendment" had not been ratified by three fourths of the States and that the "ratifications" in the Southern States were "usurpations, unconstitutional, revolutionary and void" and that, "until such ratification is completed, any State has a right to withdraw its assent to any proposed amendment."
What do the historians say about all this? The Encyclopedia Americana states:

"Reconstruction added humiliation to suffering.... Eight years of crime, fraud, and corruption followed and it was State legislatures composed of Negroes, carpetbaggers and scalawags who obeyed the orders of the generals and ratified the amendment."

W. E. Woodward, in his famous work, "A New American History?" published in 1936, says:

"To get a clear idea of the succession of events let us review [President Andrew] Johnson's actions in respect to the ex-Confederate States.

"In May, 1865, he issued a Proclamation of Amnesty to former rebels. Then he established provisional governments in all the Southern States. They were instructed to call Constitutional Conventions. They did. New State governments were elected. White men only had the suffrage the Fifteenth Amendment establishing equal voting rights had not yet been passed]. Senators and Representatives were chosen, but when they appeared at the opening of Congress they were refused admission. The State governments, however, continued to function during 1866.

"Now we are in 1867. In the early days of that year [Thaddeus] Stevens brought in, as chairman of the House Reconstruction Committee, a bill that proposed to sweep all the Southern State governments into the wastebasket. The South was to be put under military rule.

"The bill passed. It was vetoed by Johnson and passed again over his veto. In the Senate it was amended in such fashion that any State could escape from military rule and be restored to its full rights by ratifying the Fourteenth Amendment and admitting black as well as white men to the polls."

In challenging its constitutionality, President Andrew Johnson said in his veto message:

"I submit to Congress whether this measure is not in its whole character, scope and object without precedent and without authority, in palpable conflict with the plainest provisions of the Constitution, and utterly destructive of those great principles of liberty and humanity for which our ancestors on both sides of the Atlantic have shed so much blood and expended so much treasure."

Many historians have applauded Johnson's words. Samuel Eliot Morison and Henry Steele Commager, known today as "liberals," wrote in their book, "The Growth of the American Republic":

"Johnson returned the bill with a scorching message arguing the unconstitutionality of the whole thing, and most impartial students have agreed with his reasoning."

James Truslow Adams, another noted historian, writes in his "History of the United States":

"The Supreme Court had decided three months earlier, in the Milligan case, ... that military courts were unconstitutional except under such war conditions as might make the operation of civil courts impossible, but the President pointed out in vain that practically the whole of the new legislation was unconstitutional. ... There was even talk in Congress of impeaching the Supreme Court for its decisions! The legislature had run amok and was threatening both the Executive and the Judiciary."

Actually, President Johnson was impeached, but the move failed by one vote in the Senate.

The Supreme Court, in case after case, refused to pass on the illegal activities involved in "ratification." It said simply that they were acts of the "political departments of the Government." This, of course, was a convenient device of avoidance. The Court has adhered to that position ever since Reconstruction Days.

Andrew C. McLaughlin, whose "Constitutional History of the United States" is a standard work, writes:

"Can a State which is not a State and not recognized as such by Congress, perform the supreme duty of ratifying an amendment to the fundamental law? Or does a State — by congressional thinking — cease to be a State for some purposes but not for others?"

This is the tragic history of the so-called "Fourteenth Amendment" — a record that is a disgrace to free government and a "government of law."

Isn't the use of military force to override local government what we deplored in Hungary?

It is never too late to correct injustice. The people of America should have an opportunity to pass on an amendment to the Constitution that sets forth the right of the Federal Government to control education and regulate attendance at public schools either with federal power alone or concurrently with the States.

That's the honest way, the just way to deal with the problem of segregation or integration in the schools. Until such an amendment is adopted, the "Fourteenth Amendment" should be considered as null and void.

There is only one supreme tribunal — it is the people themselves. Their sovereign will is expressed through the procedures set forth in the Constitution itself

Current: Now that LB Porky posts on my blog...

I want to let you know just how disappointed I am of you. Your posts are anticlimactic. You hardly made a worthy rebuttal to my posts. You just did what you always do, complain, lie, and throw out some ad hominems in an attempt to derail the argument. The fact of the matter is, you're losing.

Your posts remind me of how you handled yourself when you were defending yourself on Quatloos. For us all:
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6380
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=6389

I want to ask you a few questions, and you may respond to this post. Actually answer these, I have more but these are the most important to me.

1) Where did you go to study law?
2) Have you passed the WI's bar exam?
3) Do you have a license to practice in WI? And no, I don't give a fuck if you have a license to practice in whatever "republic" you live in.

This matters, Porky. Respond wisely.

Current: Welcome to your scam watch, LB Pork.

LB Bork has officially googled his name and found me. Congratulations. Lemme ask you something really quick...

U  MAD?

I love the "pot calling the kettle black" thing, keep it up.

Try not to spam up my 'notmygovernment' thread, I haven't seen it yet. 

Still poking and prodding (29th - 33rd CL posts)

2194218849   Feb 02 11 03:41:38 PM   bos   politics   Hey PACINLAW guy RJ Mills

I have been a State National since '06, living in the Republic of Mass ever since.

I'm thinking of moving, because the State National population here is too small for my tastes. I'm thinking of someplace warm like Georgia or Florida, but I don't want to associate myself with fat white trash. I'm a very particular man, into fashion and kind of a socialite. Where should I move?

2194297152   Feb 02 11 04:30:44 PM   bos   politics   Hey PACINLAW

How much did you pay to become a Sovereign Citizen? I was talking with some guy who offers redemption services and I'm trying to find a smart buy here.

Help a brotha out! 

Oh good, people are chiming in. I'm going back on calling him racist. 

2194472833   Feb 02 11 06:35:12 PM   bos   politics   re: RE: Socialism and the Highly Questionable 14th (Boring tripe)

He doesn't know how. Brevity to him is impossible, because he chooses to be esoteric about the things that "support" his argument, and glib with the things that disprove it.

The best part about the article is that he wants me to care about these historic people and their "loose" connection to the 14th amendment, or how socialism then is just the same as it is now, in black and white terms, as if ideals of socialism don't change at all. As if it were called socialism then, and they all had contact with Karl Marx in the 1850's in Germany.

Hahaha, I just reread it and spotted this:

Marxist-minded professional South-hater Thaddeus Stevens was the prime mover behind the 14th Amendment. Up until that amendment you had been considered a citizen of the United States by virtue of first being a citizen of the state of your residence. If you lived in Louisiana as I now do, you were a citizen of the US because you were first a citizen of Louisiana. The 14th Amendment turned that on its head, making your prime citizenship a national citizenship and your state citizenship became of only secondary importance.


This says a lot about the author he stole this from. What is it with Louisiana and producing neo-confederates? I bet the author was around during re-segregation, fully supporting it.


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Instead of pasting in this boring windbag tripe, why don't you just type four or five sentences and make whatever your point is.

Moron!

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Socialism and the Highly Questionable 14th Amendment http://www.citizensforaconstitutionalrepublic.com/benson_Jr3-26-10.html


Moral decline, one of the main fruits of apostasy, is always accompanied by a decline in the level of personal responsibility. However, just because responsibility is neglected does not mean that it is eliminated. If a formerly responsible people decide to abdicate their responsibilities and to adopt a “Let George (the state) do it attitude, then rest assured that ”George, or Honest Abe, or Obama will most assuredly do it and the people will live to regret what they do. If you like Obama’s new “health care reform” package go to the Holy Scriptures and read First Samuel, chapter 8.

After the War of Northern Aggression, as federal power mushroomed, the states lost power (one of the real reasons for the war). Now, in these latter years of insanity we seem to be living in, many state governors, in order to maintain their popularity with a jaded electorate that wants everything done for them, have jumped on the “federal funds bandwagon” and many state governors have spent much time running to Washington for "their fair share" of the collectivist federal pie. This has had the effect of turning the states into mere vassals of Washington (exactly as Abraham Lincoln wanted). If conditions today are to be reversed, this has to cease!

After the War, what the Yankee/Marxist crowd in Washington sought to do, along with destroying the religious base of the South, was to destroy also its economic and political base. They would, therefore, forever end any Southern competition to the North, and they would also break the “rebellious spirit” of the South so that secession and nullification would never be considered again.

Marxist-minded professional South-hater Thaddeus Stevens was the prime mover behind the 14th Amendment. Up until that amendment you had been considered a citizen of the United States by virtue of first being a citizen of the state of your residence. If you lived in Louisiana as I now do, you were a citizen of the US because you were first a citizen of Louisiana. The 14th Amendment turned that on its head, making your prime citizenship a national citizenship and your state citizenship became of only secondary importance.

As he worked at crafting the 14th Amendment, one of those Stevens took advice from was Robert Dale Owen, son of the well-known English socialist Robert Owen, who founded a socialist community in New Harmony, Indiana in 1829. Robert Dale was every bit as much of a socialist as his daddy was. Yet this is where Stevens went for advice. Have you ever stopped to wonder why the “history” books never bothered to mention this? The answer is simple. They realize that you (for their purposes) are “better off” not knowing things like this. That way you can’t ask embarrassing questions.

If those in Congress were taking the advice of socialists in the mid-1860s (see the book “Red Republicans and Lincoln’s Marxists” published by iUniverse) then can we really be naive enough to believe the current historical drivel that tells us our problems in this country with socialism and communism did not begin until the 1930s or shortly before? Unfortunately, many patriotic types can. They have concocted, or been fed by our court historians, a storybook version of Abraham Lincoln and his preservation of the “glorious Union” and they like that pleasant fairy tale so much that they refuse to be confused with the facts.

Some comments from the site http://maine.patriot.com might be helpful here. This site notes: “The 14th Amendment was introduced into the U.S. House by Thaddeus Stevens, congressman from Pennsylvania and into the Senate by William Pitt Fessenden. But the language of the amendment was written by Robert Dale Owen who was a naturalized citizen from England. Robert Dale Owen’s father, Robert Owen, was the acknowledged father of British socialism. The two men that introduced the proposed amendment had both worked for Robert Owen’s communistic Harmony Society. In 1827, Robert Dale Owen founded ‘The Free Inquirer’ which was said to be a socialist publication. He was later elected to the Illinois legislature, served as ambassador to Italy and spent the end of his life devoted to abolitionism, socialism and spiritualism (talking with the dead).” So Robert Dale Owen had been, among other things, a member of the Illinois legislature. How very fitting!

This post ended up getting deleted a day later, probably because I was exposing his scam. I re-arranged the post to make it more readable.

2194725002   Feb 03 11 12:26:38 AM   bos   politics   re:RE: 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship

Most people regard this clause as self-explanitory, believing that to be "subject to the jurisdiction," all one has to do is to be within the territory of the United States. Thus they conclude that children of illegal aliens are obviously US citizens.

If I'm driving in Britain, I have to obey their traffic laws because I am WITHIN British jurisdiction. That doesn't make me a British SUBJECT.

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This is a TOTALLY fallacious analysis.

Anyone who is born within the jurisdiction of American authorities is SUBJECT to that authority and therefore qualifies as a citizen under the 14th, including the offspring of illegals.

The word "SUBJECT" in that case is an ADJECTIVE describing a QUALIFYING CONDITION.

This is ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT from the noun "SUBJECT" as you used it referring to a person's STATUS, such as your example of someone who is a SUBJECT of the British Crown.
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No offense, but you sound new at dealing with this spammer.

I admire your fresh rage at the logic behind the PACINLAW spammer. It's like mental palate cleanser to me. I once spent an evening researching all of his links a month or two ago, back when he posted pacinlaw.org and notmygovernment.us links, and I couldn't believe what I saw. I have never seen such a failure in understanding the 14th Amendment. I have also never seen such a failure in understanding Hegelian Dialectic, which used to be a common spam post. I was mentally speechless. If I were in a debate with him in high school debate class, and he pulled that 14th Amendment conspiracy theory bullshit on me, I wouldn't know how to respond. It's too stupid to comprehend, but it works on some people.

PACINLAW's objective is not to provide a solid legal argument against the 14th Amendment, no matter how much it seems to. Their objective is to make money by scamming people. It's the classic Sovereign Citizens/Redemption scam, but retooled somewhat. The organization provides a "service" in which one can correct their nationality to "state national" in order to regain "full rights" that they lost from the 14th Amendment. Like not being subject to federal laws, specifically federal taxes. It costs $450 per person, and $300 a year, not including other expenses like memberships, to be paid in BLANK MONEY ORDERS through the mail. However, if one took 5 minutes on the internet searching for "renouncing US citizenship", that person would know that "correcting nationality" is not procedurally possible, therefore, it's a scam. Most of the racism in PAC's scam is cleaned up, though the major point of 14th amendment conspiracy theories are based Christian Identity's belief that God gave the the white man supremacy over all other races.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement

Currently you have caught the spammer during remission, where he posts 14th amendment conspiracy theories, and links to other people who have no business in offering legal advice. I'm not sure if he believes that he can clean the slate this way, but he's trying.

The spammer who you are dealing with is probably named RJ Mills. I don't know how people found this out, maybe he slipped up and responded back to an email comment that was handled through Craigslist, and his email address gave away his name. If you want to email him directly, here it is: rjmillsbjkl@gmail.com. He has a Digg page that further implicates him. Digg went down for maintenance, but search for "RJ Mills pacinlaw" and it will come up 3rd or 4th result down. His thumbnail picture says it all, what a creep. I don't know what his problem is, if it's mental issues, or he's getting paid to spam, but don't expect an argument out of him unless you said something that really offended him. To him, volume of spam = dominating the argument. He does not provide any original thought to his spam and has only one kind of defense: an ad hominem attack of how the attacker is a "maintainer and deceiver" + mountain of spam.

The point of all of this is, keep your sanity. You can flag and move on, report to craigslist (appears ineffective), or troll him mercilessly. Don't argue with him.

I'm thinking of setting up a blog that hangs onto all of my effort posts, as Craigslist deletes posts after 7 days. The more negative shit on them, the less likely they are to get away with it. You may want to do this too. It will make reporting him to the FBI a lot easier.

Good luck, bro.

2195460354   Feb 03 11 11:21:10 AM   bos   politics   3RE: 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship

The point of all of this is, keep your sanity. You can flag and move on, report to craigslist (appears ineffective), or troll him mercilessly. Don't argue with him.

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I'm not really interested in the right winger's history as you are, only in his post that clearly conflated the adjective "subject" as in "subject to U.S. jurisdiction" to the noun "subject" as in "subject of the British Empire".

I pointed out the fallacy in case readers might be fooled by it, so of course I argued against it and will disregard your advice and continue to argue against fallacies here in CL as I have done for eight years.

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Yeah, good point. I wasn't too sure about you, it was 3am or so and your post seemed so innocent at the time. It was fresh - like splashing cold water on my face after an all night bender.

Say, since you have been on CL for 8 years, do you know exactly when the spammer started spamming this board? I started posting here in November '10, so I don't know.

Anyway, what ultimately made me give up on correcting his logic was over the Hegelian Dialectic. If the spammer had any knowledge of basic philosophy, he'd know that he fell into the same trap that Hegel knew about dialectics - garbage in = garbage out. His theses and antitheses were too broad to make such a synthesis. I called him out on it a few times, but I kept getting the same robo-reply about maintainers and deceivers. It wasn't nearly as fun as trolling him, so I stopped.

Postscript: Heh, the spammer is back to linking the pacinlaw tax defiance scam. Hardly a clean slate here, buddy.

Judge Leander H. Perez/Communism (24th - 28th )

Let's see if we can get RJ to admit his racism.

This next post is in response to some LH Perez authored copypasta. Also, I admit that I sometimes can't spell or talk. There's no "al" segregationist. Firefox's spell checker didn't catch it.

2186196368   Jan 29 11 12:21:10 AM   bos   politics  Judge LH Perez is a segregationalist.

Judge Leander H. Perez, from Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, is a neo-Confederate. He made absolutely sure that black people would be put in their place by whatever means he had. He ruled like a dictator, wrote his own laws, stole his own elections (via ballot stuffing and voter intimidation), and was an unwashable shitstain from the 1950's Civil Rights Era. He aligned himself with other terrible segregationalists like Strom Thrumond, George Wallace, Ross Barnet, et. al., he helped guide the roll back of integration of Louisiana public schools, and other equal rights measures. 131 laws were enacted to deny social justice for black people (and people of color). Can you believe that prick? But wait, there's more... When integration came rolling in again in the 60's, he fought back with Citizens Council of Greater New Orleans - racially concerned parents, and used mob violence against the school board building, and black people in the street or buses (rock throwing). It got so bad that the Catholic Church EXCOMMUNICATED him because his mob burned down a Catholic run school. Guess what Perez said about it... "The Church is being used as a front for clever jews" (p.212).

(read the book Lies Across America by James W. Loewen, p. 210-212. The book is online here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=vBZiU_tmRmgC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=judge+lh+perez&source=bl&ots=JZa7lFW0t0&sig=EbfvGsVhanFc9Njh-7r2aHDbyT4&hl=en&ei=lbtDTZ2eHsf1gAern_3YAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=judge%20lh%20perez&f=false )

To LH Perez, black people were nothing more than animals on welfare that are out to rape white women. He refused to see eye to eye with anyone who believed in civil rights, even against his own Catholic faith! But most of all, he saw the 14th Amendment as unconstitutional because IT TOOK AWAY HIS POWER TO ABUSE BLACK PEOPLE/PEOPLE OF COLOR, NOT BECAUSE OF ANY ANTI-FED TAX DEFIANCE SCHEME.

Give it up PACINLAW spammer RJ Mills. You can't decouple PACINLAW, LB Bork, Sovereign Citizens movement, and others, from it's hateful, racist Christian Identity heritage, regardless of how many times you post that black person speaks out against the 14th Amendment youtube video. Your praise of Judge LH Perez is your Waterloo. Give up. The entire basis of your tax defiance is because you hate black people. Admit it.

Fun fact: "I'm not Racist, in fact, I have a black friend, but I think black people are smelly" is in fact a racist thing to say, and it does make you a racist. Admit it. Black people are allowed to have their own conspiracy theories. The man is not your friend anyway, hell, you don't have any friends judging by your Digg Profile pic.

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We've been advised by several legal researchers (NOT lawyers) that if the autonomous states declared it's invalidity (the 14th Amendment) the entire out-of-thin-air economic stranglehold on this nation, along with the current system of Talmudic law would collapse. No need for an amendment to repeal the 14th because it is not a lawful part of the Constitution. In fact, if the missing lawfully ratified 13th Amendment was re-inserted, the one could replace the other. To fully protect the rights of descendants of slaves, each state could declare equal rights of all legal Citizens

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Talmudic law. Talmudic law.... WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN!? You fucking anti-semite shit head. Keep your retarded opinions of the 13th Amendment to yourself.

I'm reporting your scam to the FBI in the morning. Fuck waiting on Craigslist. I'm too tired for this shit.

I have to admit, threatening to notify the FBI is my favorite threat, just like my dad's favorite threat is "I'm gonna audit you." Like father, like son.

Unfortunately, RJ is engaged with something else, and is spamming these "45 Planks of Communism." 

2190543849   Jan 31 11 02:13:44 PM   bos   politics   re: Postings Missing?! WHO Shall We Believe as Truth?

Your not fooling anybody.

I flag you as spam because you post the same thing over and over. That's what happened to your "10 Planks of Communism under a different header" post. I flagged it spam because it is spam, and I remember it having Pacinlaw links at the bottom.

You know, if you just made one big effort post, with a concise thesis and examples, in your own words, without plagiarism, and without links to pacinlaw/notmygovernment/red amendment it wouldn't be so bad. If you put up a half decent defense of your post, without crying about maintainers and deceivers, it also wouldn't be so bad. But you don't. So I'll just keep flagging until you do. There is some decorum here to respect, you know.
Finally, maintainers and deceivers is such a stupid phrase. Why not say maintainers of deception? It sounds so much better in my mind.
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I was on earlier in the day and this morning. I noticed allot of postings missing from here since lunch break and allot apparently staying here. It is apparent who is attempting to Dominate Craigs List and I DO NOT see it as being PACInLaw guy. It all appears to be one sided and some attempt to stifle what he is saying, could this be the truth that others are trying to make? I believe my thoughts my be swayed towards PAC guy because it appears what he is saying is happening.

Hey Dirt Back Who keeps Deleting Post why don't you FUCK OFF and leave these posting alone and stop calling it Spam. Misdirection of the Truth is also a trait used by Deceivers. Calling other peoples posting spam is what you are doing. Maybe Pac guy and others wouldn't post as much if you weren't deleting his post, ASS WIPE! Think About That! Besides his postings make sinse and you others seem to mislead others. Very cleverly, might I add!!

Ugh! Such bad posting... It's almost as if the Warden from Superjail! wrote this. (He's responding to an unrelated post where someone rightly told him to fuck off.). After this post, there's an onslaught of "Planks of Communism" posts. So let's try calling him a communist...


2191003146  Jan 31 11 06:57:06 PM   bos   politics   That's a whole lot of postin' about communism

You seem to know a whole lot about communist takeovers. Which makes me really suspicious. Maybe you are the Agent Provocateur I keep hearing about.

CONFIRM OR DENY
Are you, or have you been a member of the Communist party?

Are you, or have you been a member of the Socialist party?

Are you, or have you ever taken up arms against the United States of America?

Are you, or have you ever assisted someone in committing acts of terrorism?

Complete the sentence: Better ________ than ___________.

No dice. Let's ridicule his 45 planks of communism post, because we all know that Hell's Angels types are on the forefront of creeping Communism (read: beating up black people). If your curious about the whole list, you can find it here -> http://www.solriders.com/issues/45_planks.html

2192741844   Feb 01 11 06:43:34 PM   bos   politics    Help, help, my right hand can't stop posting.

Translation to every spam post today:
Hey you guys, I just got finished paying LB Bork $1000 to renounce my citizenship, and I picked a fight with my boss hoping that I could requisition the extra $100 or so that's being withheld from me. Welp, I'm out of a job, folks, and employment poison.

I called up LB hoping for a handout because it's fucking blizzard out there and he told me that I could "donate posts to Craigslist" and write it off on all of my tax returns to fool the IRS, making SERIOUS BANK. So far it's working out great!


Below: holy lol! Kill yourself, please. You're completely broken, return to manufacturer. Ask for a refund. Tell 'em I sent you, so you can get a $50 rebate.


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38. Transfer Arrest Powers Such as To DOG OFFICERS!!

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
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39. Dominate Psychiatric Profession

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

2192885879   Feb 01 11 08:57:35 PM   bos   politics   Oh God, oh God, oh Gaawwwwdd!

Hrmmm... what is a good record to play while I spam Craigslist? After listening to Fleetwood Mac'sRumors, I'm beginning to think there's a serious Socialist theme going on. I mean, all they do is fuck each other, and sing songs about togetherness like Chain and Don't Stop (thinking about tomorrow). I can't reconcile that while enjoying Go Your Own Way. Shit, what do I do? I need tunes, but I'm sick of Foreigner's Agent Provocateur (It's still my favorite album! Oh Lou Gramm, you hold the key to my heart <3 <3 <3).

You know what, I'm in a super racist mood. Lets put on some 'Nuge. ♫ C-C-C Cat Scratch Feverrr dun nun nun ♫

Now lets crank out those posts and masturbate simultaneously - heh. My day is really shaping up now

Unf, Unnnnfff... 14th Amendment is unconsti - unnnnnnn... huff, huff, huff, because the founding fathers designed it to be anti OHHHHHH..... huff, huff, communist... freedoms are the principle (internal thought: Ted's voice is so soothing ... I wish he was here to "massage" my asshole with his humongously ribbed cock. NO FIGHT IT, FINISH THE POST BEFORE THE GAYNESS CONSUMES YOU!) I'm gonna add some copypasta that doesn't even support my views. OHHH huff..

♫WANG DANG SWEET POONTANG♫

OH GOD OH GOD OH GAWD, HERE I CUM! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN SLAVES! a woooooooooph!


*post*

Yet another quality post thanks to the 'Nuge. *phone rings* GO AWAY! *hi, this is Brian from the local KKK chapter. You haven't been coming to the Klavern meetings lately and I'm worried about you...* FUCK YOU COMMIE!

If I had an excuse to do it all again... Hey, some asshole flagged off my post! This is ♪ FABULOUS ♪.

I'm not sure how anybody else feels about my posts, but my last two are probably my best. Haters gonna hate.

I, Sovereign Citizen, am going to jail. (22, 23)

2185834340   Jan 28 11 05:19:01 PM   bos   politics    I, Sovereign Citizen, am going to jail

I'm not sure if the post below (http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pol/2185772004.html) is from the pacinlaw spammer, or somebody else who is trying to illuminate people on the legal theories of Sovereign Citizen movement, but I have to mention that taking the advice contained in that post is a good way to get your shit wrecked by the IRS.

The IRS does not fuck around with Sovereign Citizen types. Read the Truth About Frivolous Tax Arguments: http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=159853,00.html

Of course I can't be bothered to quote the original post. (dummy!*facepalm*)

But I do it in the second post, it's at the bottom in italics. Trust me folks, my gimmick becomes more refined as time goes on. Green = someone else.

2186031972   Jan 28 11 08:02:01 PM   bos   politics   re: RE: I, Sovereign Citizen, am going to jail

I located copies of that document on the internet by just Googling one of the sentences in it to find the sites where it appears. It seems to be one guy's affidavit. Don't know if it's based on a Bork boilerplate, but it sounds like it, since he uses a lot of the same terminology.

The affidavit's last paragraph (below) is a hoot. It's hard to believe anyone could submit this to the IRS with a straight face.

Hahaha. I'm trying to read that but it's just one big wall of text. I can't make heads or tails out of this thing. If I were the IRS I'd look at the first sentence, stop, and send agents to arrest him. I don't have time for that bullshit - take it up to the judge, who I'm certain has no time for that bullshit either.

When he talks about punitive damages, it almost sounds like a threat, which is a big mistake. Filing frivolous things to the IRS is a $5000 penalty. Habitual abusers can receive a $250000 penalty + 3 years in jail. And that's just frivolous things, not threats.



Fun fact: Did you know that the Sovereign Citizens movement is directly based on the Christian Identity, a racist organization of radicalized churches that defy taxes because the 14th amendment gave rights to people of color, and they believe it is an affront to their faith of white supremacy?

Fun fact #2: Did you know that PACINLAW is a semi recent offshoot of the Sovereign Citizens movement? Same scam, different name.




lets repost that bullshit one more time for laughs-------------------------------------------------

51. In light of all affidavit documents provided the IRS and other agencies in the past, as well as this affidavit and attachments, all unrebutted to date, and under Common Law, I am an "injured party" in relation to damages done to me by the IRS and other government agencies, and under Common Law, and under UCC 1-207, as well as HJR 192, I reserve all my rights for remedy of the injury as described below: Due to the fraudulent nature (without full disclosure and subject to Common Law, UCC Law and Law of Nations, where legally and constitutionally applicable) of the past collection of "income" taxes, "social security" taxes and "medicare taxes" from me which I have not legally been liable for, and due to the fact that Supreme and Appellate Court case law clearly shows that where such felony crimes have been committed, there is no statute of limitations, and therefore no time limit for which this request for complete and full refund of all monies paid to the IRS or any related agency would fall under. In addition, Supreme Court case law provides for 4 times the defrauded amount for Compensatory Damages, PLUS 200 times that total amount as Punitive Damages: CLEOPATRA HASLIP et al. v. PACIFIC MUTUAL LIFE INSURANCE, INC. 499 U.S.1, 113 Fed 2d 1, 111 sct 1032 (no. 89-1279) For Conversion: 4 times for Compensatory Damages 200 times for Punitive Damages Therefore, according to the most recent "Social Security" statement the IRS sent to me, dated January 15, 2008, the taxes withheld through constructive fraud and due me are: "Social Security," $12,335, "Medicare," $2,451, "Frivolous Penalty" illegally removed from my bank account, $130.87 (See Attachment Q) Forced Labor: Being forced, through this constructive fraud, to expend my personal and business time on unnecessary record keeping and form filing (valued at $50 U.S. dollars per hour), and amounting to 1,200 hours since 1982, totaling $60,000 (See Attachment D). IRS Liability subtotal: $83,460.55 X 4 (Compensatory Damages) = $333,842.20 X 200 (Punitive Damages) Total: $66,768,440.00 Grand SUB Total Owed: = $66,768,440 - (Sixty Six Million Seven Hundred Sixty Eight Thousand Four Hundred Forty Dollars), payable as described below, NOT YET including ALL "income" taxes unwittingly paid under constructive fraud since 1982. By reason of the above-stated facts which have gone unrebutted to date, and the affidavits and evidence already filed with the IRS, I again exercise my right to rescind, cancel and to render null and void, from the time of signing, each and every document containing my signature which would indicate in any manner whatsoever that I was ever subject to or liable for any internal revenue tax, or other tax of any kind, I hereby, with this notarized affidavit, and public filing of this entire document and attachments, lay claim to all previous collected funds which the IRS fraudulently collected contrary to my claimed rights, plus the allowed-for compensatory and punitive damages as calculated above, and demand said funds in total payment to secured party, Bubba LaRue, or his heirs, in perpetuity. To avoid a legal case, and far greater punitive damages because the IRS was previously placed on Notice regarding its actions via all provided evidence added to my entire Individual Master File over the last 3+ years, but was ignored by the IRS and the IRS continually pursued this constructive fraud, I am requesting that you respond with certified rebuttal within 21 days, (See Attachment N), or the full payment in Gold or Silver, or with certified check in my natural name, or wiring of funds to an account of my choosing, (both under immunity to prosecution) within 90 days of the expiring 21 day deadline above. Actual income taxes collected since 1982, plus 25 years interest on income tax principle, and subsequent "income," "social security" and "medicare taxes" defrauded in 2007 from me, will also be bound to the initial total monies due me, and to include compensatory and punitive damage awards. IRS records can verify this amount based on total social security taxes defrauded. If no documented, legal and certified point-by-point rebuttal to this Affidavit of Truth and attachments is forthcoming within 111 days of your receipt of it, under UCC Law, Common Law, Constitutional Law, and Law of Nations, it will indicate IRS acceptance of, and agreement with, ALL the facts previously presented in this affidavit and attachments, create a Security, (15 USC), and an accounts-receivable (See Attachment R), and make the IRS, and other related agencies, permanently liable for all claimed amounts and damages, payable to me, or my heirs in perpetuity, until paid in full as allowed above. 15% interest per MONTH required on all uncollected monies due me beginning exactly 120 days from the date of this affidavit, until total claim is paid.

I dare you to read all of that.

Will the Real LB Bork Please Stand UP? (19, 20, 21)

I got some good responses to this one. Of course, I didn't save any of them.

2183820329   Jan 27 11 03:29:14 PM   bos   politics   LB Bork here

Yes, that's right. I am LB Bork. Operation Agent Provocateur is a success! Stand down, Operative. We have met our quota. The time has come to reap what we sow.

Listen, I had a dream, that we could all rise up and not pay taxes for services we still use. Some of you have doubted me. Some of you said, "This can't be real, it has all the hallmarks of a scam", And that is where you are wrong, for I am a Constitutional Expert! Only I know how the Constitution works. And let me just say, you are being lied to by an unjust and illegal government. They take your hard earned money, bar you from violating others' civil rights, and build roads and schools with it. That is just wrong! THAT IS SICK! This is God's country - and the bible says that I have every right to assert my White Privilege. No colored man will get a free ride out of me! Can I get an AMEN!? (say AMEN so I can move on).

The archangel Ayn Rand has spoken to me, "LB, you can't win if you are still living underneath a communist and satanic government. I know where one can experience true freedom (points westward, yellow brick road appears)". So I followed her. I have climbed up to the mountaintop, and I have seen the promised land. A land truly devoid of altruism. A land of companies owning slaves, both literally and figuratively. A land where I can truly take advantage of the gullible. Join me, the government can't arrest us all for tax evasion in Kieler, WI!


When the usher comes by with the collection basket, put in BLANK MONEY ORDERS please. For you need not know what I do with it.

Let's get a little more spacey...

2184112203   Jan 27 11 06:42:44 PM   bos    politics   LB Bork to Operative, can you hear me?

I'm sending encrypted data your way, please stand by. Stand in the direction of Kieler, WI, bow your head, and pray that Ayn Rand grants mercy on your soul. It's necessary to complete the uplink.

[INITIATING UPLINK]
0000: 0068010E 00000001 00000000 C004000B
0008: 00000103 00000000 00000000 00000000
0010: 00000000 00000000 03A04BA7 00000000
0018: FFFFFFFF 00000006 00000040 00000000
0020: 12060000 00000008 00000000 0000003C
0028: 00000000 87194848 00000000 9A8F5320
0030: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0038: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0040: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000: 0E 01 68 00 01 00 00 00 ..h.....
0008: 00 00 00 00 0B 00 04 C0 .......À
0010: 03 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: A7 4B A0 03 00 00 00 00 §K .....
0030: FF FF FF FF 06 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
0038: 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: 00 00 06 12 08 00 00 00 ........
0048: 00 00 00 00 3C 00 00 00 ....<...
0050: 00 00 00 00 48 48 19 87 ....HH.‡
0058: 00 00 00 00 20 53 8F 9A .... S�š
0060: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0068: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
[UPLINK COMPLETE]

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

I am LB Bork. Operation Agent Provocateur is a success. We have made our quota. We have gathered enough funding from defrauding the government and gullible people over the past 10 years. We can't wait any longer. The IRS is closing in. The mothership is complete. It's beautiful. Come home, son.


Over and out---- bsshhhhtt!

That post started a small fad where we all talked like this. Of course, I didn't save any of them. I really ought to get back to posting like that.

BTW, those numbers come from an various error reports under Vista. Having flaky hardware can be a creative goldmine.

2184180344    Jan 27 11 07:39:03 PM   bos   politics   LB Bork to Operative

Remember to face Kieler, WI., and pray to Ayn Rand to receive the encrypted uplink. It's imperative that you receive this. For your eyes only.

[INITIALIZING UPLINK]
0000: 000C07DA 001F0005 000A0016 017D0038
0008: 000107DB 00010006 000A0003 017D0038
0010: 00000960 0000003C 00000001 00000960
0018: 00000000 000004B0 00000001 00000000
0000: DA 07 0C 00 05 00 1F 00 Ú.......
0008: 16 00 0A 00 38 00 7D 01 ....8.}.
0010: DB 07 01 00 06 00 01 00 Û.......
0018: 03 00 0A 00 38 00 7D 01 ....8.}.
0020: 60 09 00 00 3C 00 00 00 `...<...
0028: 01 00 00 00 60 09 00 00 ....`...
0030: 00 00 00 00 B0 04 00 00 ....°...
0038: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
[UPLINK COMPLETE]

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

Son, I know that your 17, and I understand that you have a grudge against the government because they took a small portion of your paycheck for SS. But you have got to stop posting. It's a dead horse now. We have met our quotas. The bounty of gullible people has been plentiful, however the IRS is on our game. You have to get back to the mothership. Archangel Ayn Rand appeared in my visions. She has told me that the alien space craft that follows the Hale Bopp comet will guide us. They know of a place free of the 14th amendment. Trust me, Somalia was never an option, and yes it is because of black people. I don't know if I can enslave them like I used to. Please ret----
[NO CARRIER]

I put a muzzle on it when I came across a rather weird post by some one else... Until next time

"Agent Provocateur" is a great Foreigner album (16th, 17th, and 18th post)

Getting back on schedule. I got my 7 or so drafts scheduled to update every night at 11:30pm, and I'm half way through collecting all the posts from my Craigslist account.

Just in case you forgot, the post below is about the ripoff report.

2180522776    Jan 25 11 07:54:08 PM   bos   politics   Agent Provocateur is a great Foreigner album

Man, what took you so long? We miss you sooooo much! (yech!)

The link has been posted before on the Boston pol section. Many times. It is also the very first link on a Google search for "LB Bork". Don't act like you went to great lengths to find it.

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>>>The person that posted this is being deceptive as he failed to provide the link. This is a typical tactic by someone who deceives… It is called "Exculpatory Evidence", as they left out the link on purpose so to hide the evidence. Also, it is an ad hominem based attack… They are attempting to distract from the volumes of relevant free information from People’s Awareness Coalition as to keep people ignorant. This is a typical type move by someone when they have no retort. Aside that, the Coalition does not depend on the Internet for sales, and we have anyone interested in working with us talk to others anyway. Out base is that of people who work in local community, which is the end goal in our education.

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I'm pretty sure that PAC does depend on the internet for sales, considering how seriously you're defending the organization, aside from the heaping spam you're about to shovel on the politics board.

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>>>In short, the guy noted in the post owes money for breach of contract and used the source for attempting to break the contract through extortion by posting on the site. Anyone that reads the whole post (is why these deceivers who posted this without the link) would find the guy was wrong and admitted it. Moreover, there are several posts of other people that said that there are absolutely no issues with PAC… How do you think the Coalition has been around for over ten years? One complaint from an extortionist who is not all that bright. WOW!

Nice try by someone that is also into cheating and deceiving aside the extortionist. Must be an attorney, it appears; as their income flow depends on deception.

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You just solidified why the LB Bork is a scam artist. There's no service, just pretend paperwork paid with BLANK MONEY ORDERS to a PO box in Kieler WI, backed up by a contract that gives the scammer full control to do nothing, not like his service did anything to begin with.

The delusional posters below are probably sockpuppets. WOW, A+++++ would do again is hardly a defense.

One complaint from an extortionist who is not all that bright. WOW!  Followed up by responders that are also not all that bright. WOW! I can't wait until the IRS catches up! Protip: If LB Bork's service did as advertised, with a decent service, that ripoff entry would not even exist! WOW!

Sidebar: Do a Google search on Anne Marie Chermak... talk about not learning how to keep a low profile. It's searches like these that almost make me want to keep a pin-up map of aggregated names and addresses (too late!).
 
2181623243   Jan 26 11 12:25:21 PM   bos   politics   Pacinlaw, scams, and the ripoff report

LB Bork and PACINLAW is such an obvious scam, I don't know how anyone can fall for it.

LB Bork is an internet asshole, playing Da Vinci Code with the Constitution (an ineffective tactic in court), without any credentials to say that he has any expertise in what he does. He doesn't say that he's an attorney, and that he has 20+ years of experience with a 90% success rate or anything like that. He doesn't provide any information regarding where he studied law, or where he's licensed to practice. He's just regarded as an "expert" in constitutional law. If that doesn't set off one big red flag, then reading his thoughtfully schizophrenic website should do it. Unfortunately, the Anti-fed/Sovereign Citizens/tax evaders aren't all that smart and will do anything to evade taxes (Except flee to a desert island), like giving this scam artist with an easy source of income.

LB Bork provides a "service" that changes the citizenship of the applicant to their state. It is essentially no more effective than a rock is at keeping tigers away. Some of his marks believe that his "service" is actually effective, but I'd hold out until one of them wins a court case for tax evasion, assuming they're real people and not LB Bork. Hell, even the contract makes no guarantee that after the "service" can keep the Federal Government away. Another big red flag.

The "service" requires mailing in BLANK MONEY ORDERS. If this isn't the biggest red flag of them all, I don't know what else is. Also requires the purchase of his book too. And if you want anything extra, like legal help, it will cost you extra in BLANK MONEY ORDERS. (I wouldn't be surprised if his scheme is priced out like Scientology, with multi-tier memberships.)

The contract LB Bork uses gives him the right to terminate the "service" over any little problem, no refunds. In the ripoff report, Gene sent more than he should have to initiate the "service", ran into a snag, and traced the payment. From there Gene learns that no service has been provided, he just merely paid for LB Bork's internet hosting, so he told the internet his experience. All of which is a violation of the contract (apparently!). Now, I don't know about you, but wouldn't it be better if LB Bork did offer a refund so he wouldn't get such negative attention? Or maybe even provide a "service" at a timely manner that Gene expected?



To the PACINLAW scammer, can you explain to us how is this not a scam?

I never got a response to that. I sometimes wonder if this is worth the effort, arguing with facts.

2182329142   Jan 26 11 07:19:50 PM    bos    politics    Flagging PACINLAW

Considering that now we know that PACINLAW is a scam, I flag with prohibited. How does the community flag the PACINLAW posts? I want to stay consistent with others, it may be more effective that way. 

I got all kinds of responses to that. Though I think that if it gets 25 from any category, it goes down regardless, unless the person has a history of shit posting.

Stay tuned for my next series of postings. It gets better.

Current: Looks like I'm gonna have to expand my search net

RJ appears to be moving into other markets. It's comical, but frightening at the same time.

When I first started following him, he posted in 4 major cities: Boston, Washington D.C., San Fran, and LA. Then he expanded to New Hampshire, which is a much slower moving section (it has it's strengths and weaknesses - one, less traffic, so less eyes, yet less eyes = less flags, so it stays up longer.)

Now, he has expanded into Dallas, and that worries me. There's an episode of I (Almost) Got a Way with It on TLC channel called Got to Lock and Load that describes the "Republic of Texas", and it left an impression on me as I was watching it. Here's a description:

Got To Lock And Load
Air Date: 12/21

In 1997 members of the Republic of Texas separatist group took Joe Rowe and his wife hostage. The Texas Rangers were able to negotiate their release, and capture four separatists, however two members, Richard Keyes and Mike Matson got away. Fleeing into the mountainous hills of Davis, Texas they spent two days evading helicopters and police dogs, eventually Matson pulls his pistol, preferring to go out in standoff. Keyes keeps running. Using an underground Militia group, Keyes is able to hideout in the woods undetected, until a tail leads the FBI to his hideout, and his capture.

The man who almost got away with it, Richard Keyes, is a creep and a moron (Aspergers?). It blows my mind that he even got that far, considering that he has no idea how to lay low. He hides out with other "Sovereign Republic" types and gets his ass kicked out the door (3 times!) when he suggests to do something big like blow up a federal building to his compatriots.

And yet, police and feds were too many steps away from capturing him. This frightens me. The Southern States are loaded with these types of people, they're not terribly smart, and yet they're out of law enforcement's reach. Is RJ trying to reach out to other "Republics" and plan something big? If it's true, I don't want to find out what's next.

Luckily, I have a massive effort post that I saved as a contingency plan. I'm going to keep reposting it until the spammer stops. Check out Dallas /pol/ for more.

Stay safe!
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Protecting the Monopoly (14th and 15th CL post)

I'm beginning to think that I really fucked up in not collecting Post ID numbers from quoting. Craigslist hangs onto posts for a while, and only lists 7 days back.

2171455928   Jan 20 11 05:06:10 PM    bos   politics   re: YUP! PROTECTING The MONOPOLY

Are you getting the sinking feeling knowing that you too could have fled the country for free rather than give LB Bork money? Seriously, how could you fall for this?

Pop quiz: What law school did LB Bork go to receive his degree? Has he passed the Wisconsin state bar exam? You should know this, you peddle his shit.

Remember that the epic fail here is that as long as we call it a scam on the internet, it will be the top search on Google when people search for you. So far, it already is.

Give it up, PACINLAW is a scam, and you're a scammer.

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This whiner appears to be an attorney attempting to discredit PAC to protect their scam and monopoly. It Is So Clear to See!


LB Bork finds most people in the law profession to be liars and deceivers. Here is PAC’s stand on such matters:


Distinction between People's Awareness Coalition and Attorneys


The People's Awareness Coalition has the goal in educating people of America in regard to the change of government that took place just after the Civil War. In contraposition in an attempt to educate the people of America, attorneys believe they have a monopoly on the law, wherefore keep their "trade secrets" to themselves. Some have the attitude that their level of intelligence is greater; and accordingly treat anyone who is not in their circle like they are inferior. To protect their monopoly and stream of enormous income, some seek to ridicule and destroy people of America rather than make an attempt to educate them.


More here: http://www.pacinlaw.org/demons


For those who want to see why a group of attorney’s wanted the Wiki article removed, you may view it on the PAC site : http://www.pacinlaw.org/wiki


The work of LB Bork has been said to be brilliant! Check comments on The Red Amendment here : http://www.redamendment.net/comments


As far as the post on LB Bork complaint, if people would read it they will find that some dishonorable guy dishonored his contract. He posted what he did in an attempt to extort LB.


Moreover, there are many positive comments from other people found within it. EPIC FAIL on this ATTORNeys part to discredit PAC.


And, most attorney’s do not know law and just parrot what they have been told to think. Most only know procedure and have not a clue on the particulars of international and constitutional law.


One example of their ignorance and use of fraud is the use of case law in federal cases is a violation of due process as the facts in every case are different.


Remember the rule, even bad publicity is good publicity! We would thank the whiner for creating the controversy that is sending more people the PACinlaw!

That's the veil here. Don't trust attorneys, or their long years of experience, trust me, with no legal experience! Looks like RJ Mills is a Maintainer and Deceiver.

2171588455    Jan 20 11 06:42:11 PM    bos   politics   re4: So you wanna renounce your citizenship

No, what I'm saying is that if you're gonna write a chapter long registration form, you might as well site sources. Not an unreasonable concept. But I'm gonna keep lollin' at your expense because you're a dumbass and a scammer and you're crying like a little bitch on the internet for the whole world to see (well, anyone who gives a shit about Boston, Mass.).

It's a small wonder how you cleaned up your grammar and punctuation after enough call outs. I kind of figured you for a gimmick.

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Translation: To clarify, our services don't work as advertised such that you're not really off the hook for anything. Say hello to the IRS for me!
ANSWER: We talk to the internal investigation division of the IRS to file criminal complaints on the IRS employees. We will tell them hello for you. What is your name, Cyberpussy?

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HAHAHAH, Oh, goddamn! REALLY? Yeah, filing complaints really work. Hey, lets ask black people on the success rate of filing racial profiling complaints at the police station. Or any complaint at all. Also, nice touch with the Cyberpussy comment. You really got me. My real name is Nancy Pelosi, I'm the Somerville lesbian who has been tracking you down for the past 10 or so years. When I'm not trying to ruin you life, I'm actively drafting communist legislation in my spare time. It's a really lonely job, and I'm looking for a strong, opinionated lesbian to lezz out with. Think Coach Beiste from Glee (What a heartthrob!).




You're funny when you act like you're serious business. Keep it up you scam artist.

By the way, what law school did LB Bork Graduate from? Does he have a license to practice in Wisconsin? How about you?

 I wonder if their talks with the IRS involve paper terrorism and other bogus returns/documents?

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Current: RJ Mills learns how to use flagging software, I tip off Wiley publishers, and Craigs-lisp

A little break in the programming for some current news. Green = someone else.

2222321904   Feb 18 11 05:53:15 PM    bos   politics   re2: Fair and Balanced Reporting

Well, that explains it all. I always thought you were getting paid to do this. What kind of money are you making out of this? Is it in a gimmick currency? (liberty dollars?)

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I have Only Lately began to Flag Posting of Liberals. My Posting have been flagged consistantly for the last year. I have NO problem Posting 50 or more a day if my Postings become Flagged. I now have that program that will delete Craig list Postings within seconds. I wish Not to use it. My intent was never to post more than a few a day, unless my postings become deleted. I am lucky to be working for a True Patriot who allows me to work on CL while I'm working and has No Problem Paying me all day to do so!! Flagging goes both ways. As does opposing post of opinions. How do you wish to handle this? What say you.

http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1298064764

http://www.notmygovernment.us/forum/NMG.pl?num=1283125417
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I am guilty of flagging RTR News. This is because yesterday the BorkBot called for the flagging of all LIB POSTS. And he proceeded to follow through.

Earlier today, there was a post with a list of leftwing news articles. Here's the link: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pol/2221415348.html

Yep, it was flagged and deleted. Then the Rightwing News post appeared.

Now, I can appreciate seeing the conservative point of view here. Lefties like discussing rightwing beliefs. But if leftie news is to be flagged, and rightwing news isn't flagged, I'd say that's not fair or balanced.

BORKBOT: If flagging liberal posts is your new game, it will fail, and you will attract even more flags to your posts.

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Flaggers! (from another spam flagger)
Date: 2011-02-18, 5:39PM EST

I have stopped flagging the Pacinlaw spams when the guy only posts a few of them. Even the "RTR News" post, which links to false "news" sources like Newsmax and WND, is still a valid post!

The spammer will learn not to spam and double-post if you avoid flagging him on days when he does NOT overpost.

Just a request for fair and balanced flagging!

signed,
the REAL Lizzy Leftwinger




* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

PostingID: 2222257076 

I should have asked if LB Bork pays him in BLANK MONEY ORDERS. Oh well, maybe next time.

I ended up sending an email off to abuse@craigslist.org regarding RJ Mills' abuse of the Terms of Service. I'm pretty sure that Craigslist doesn't allow such software to be used, or allow intermediaries to post. The fact that RJ gets paid to do this is not surprising. Many Sovereign Citizen type scams have traveling "salesmen", so to speak, so the mastermind can spread the scam as well as distance him or herself from it.

So I sent off an email to the legal department of Wiley Publishers, inc., makers of the "For Dummies" line of self-help books and services. Their "For Dummies" nerd logo, seen here pointing at the search bar: http://www.dummies.com/, was misappropriated by LB Bork and his PACINLAW.org website, on the lower left hand corner. Screen shot below:

Clicking on the nerd brings you to a "4 Dummies" type of explanation of the entire PAC web ring. Now, I don't know how litigious Wiley Publishers Inc. is, but as I suggested to them in the email, if it were my logo, and my name of  I would be furious if some scam artist is using it even if it is fair use. I also outlined how PAC is a scam and included a link to the Nationality Correction Form.

I'll post the entire email and response if I get one. Otherwise, I'll keep an eye peeled on that nerd.

Stay tuned to see if I grow a pair and tip off the FBI (Tomorrow - I only started to collect his spam and postID numbers as text files, but I think I have enough).

And for a little fun, I ran into Craigs-lisp, a translating layer that gives Craigslist a lisp. It makes RJ's spam more enjoyable to deal with.
http://boston.craigs-lisp.com/

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